Realistic Fitness Advice: Self-Acceptance for a Kinder Neurodivergent You with Krist Morrow

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[00:04:25] Today, my guest is Christoph Morrow. And he is, give me a second, pulling up my information. He's a veteran author, a world-winning journalist that sold more than 1200 copies of his book, The Second Son. And he lives in Vancouver, British Columbia.

[00:04:46] And today we're going to be talking about self-forgiveness. And yeah, we're going to talk about self-forgiveness. Gosh, I didn't speak. That's what happens when your mind is on everything else, on everything else. Damn. Anyway, let's welcome Morrow. Hello. Hello. Shakespeare. Hello, Jimmy. Good evening.

[00:05:12] So before we get started, can you tell us a little bit about who you are, what you do, how you got started, and why you got started? Shakespeare.

[00:05:22] Like you said, I'm Shakespeare. I'm a disabled Navy veteran. I'm an author. I won some awards as a journalist and as a photographer in journalism. Also in short fiction and poetry at this couple of universities I went to. Well, not universities, colleges.

[00:05:40] And I went to, I just moved actually back to the United States. I moved to Shakespeare. I moved to South Carolina like two days ago. So this is brand new. Shakespeare. Did it feel weird when you moved and then you come back over? Does it feel weird?

[00:06:03] Shakespeare. Yeah, moving from, especially moving from Canada, you know, there really is an entirely different personality to most of the people there. They're much more serene, relaxed. I think the healthcare. Everybody here is wound up tight and just always angry.

[00:06:23] Trying to get from one place to another, like trying to capitalize on time as much as they can, I think. That's what it is. Catch. Shakespeare.

[00:06:32] I get that. So my first question for you is, how did you come up with the title? Pardon me if I get my notes again. Second song? Yeah, the second song. My brain is all over the place.

[00:06:48] That's bad. Shakespeare. It's actually a member to the plot. It would be giving it away if I told you what it meant, but essentially it is loosely a reference to the notion that there's sort of catastrophic climate change and, you know, and all the qualities of a son.

[00:07:08] If there were a second one, it's like it's much like the way we see that every year it's getting hotter and hotter. But anyway, the book is an allegory for generational wealth inequality and a bunch of other stuff, but it's an epic fantasy actually.

[00:07:23] Sounds interesting. I'll definitely check it out. My next question for you is, how does one practice self forgiveness? Shakespeare. You know, I find that recognizing your worth through the love of others is a very helpful place to start.

[00:07:50] I think that a lot of people think that friendship isn't, it shouldn't be about reciprocity, but it is. Shakespeare ultimately is. It's supposed to be freely given, of course.

[00:08:03] But ultimately, self forgiveness is about discovering that, discovering peace from others. And I mean, really, that's the only way to move forward. Shakespeare, because I have Tourette's. I ruminate on everything from when I was a kid to now. Anything that I've ever done that I feel ashamed of.

[00:08:33] And because of the extraordinary amount of abuse I faced as a kid, I've mutilated myself a lot. And not because I want to, but because it's part is member to my illness.

[00:08:46] Shakespeare, because from Tourette's. So I've given myself like black eyes and bloody lips. And I lost a lot of my hands kind of deformed now.

[00:08:57] I'm actually on my right hand because I've hit it on things so much. And so like, I've had to really sort of embrace the notion of forgiveness for yourself.

[00:09:07] Because if you mean to live a life of virtue and valor, that's all really you can ask. That's really all you can ask. You do the best you can to make it right. And that's all you can do.

[00:09:18] I can agree with that, especially because like, I did some stuff growing up in public school that I was not proud of.

[00:09:29] And let's say metaphorically burned some of those bridges that I created with some people. And there's, and some people forgive me and then there's some people who did not forgive me.

[00:09:44] And years later, those people still looked at me as the same way as I was back then. And they, no, I'm definitely not the same. But since they didn't stay connected with me, they didn't see any change. They kept on seeing me as the old me.

[00:10:03] And so I improved a lot. I mean, I'm not perfect whatsoever, but I forgive myself for taking me many years to forgive myself.

[00:10:16] But the people who've been, stayed with me and is sending me to who I am today, I cherish those people because they don't look at me like the person who I was, let's say 15 years ago or 16 years ago. Maybe a little bit more than that. Time flies.

[00:10:39] We all evolve, I think. Yeah, Shakespeare. We all evolve, you know, and we hope at the end of our lives that we would achieve, we would have earned some kind of peace, you know, knowing that we did what we could to earn the love that we have. Shakespeare.

[00:10:57] My next question for you is, why do you think some people have not forgiven themselves on stuff that they did, either regretting or stuff they haven't done? Why do you think that is Shakespeare? I think often it's social conditioning. We're conditioned not to believe we deserve it.

[00:11:23] But I don't know a single person who's flawless, even the people who I know who are extraordinarily kind and charitable have done things that would not flatter them at all in front of, if it were discovered, you know, if people knew about it, right?

[00:11:40] But we all share in that, I think. And so I think that we should take some solace in the notion that it's universal, that failure is universal, especially towards one another, like failure towards one another and failure to maintain harmony.

[00:12:02] I don't know. An ecosystem of peace, right? Shakespeare. Shakespeare. I agree with that too. You know, I also believe that, you know, I always like to be transparent with, like, I don't go into all the details of my what happened years ago.

[00:12:29] I do give hints here and there, but I like to be open about it because then people say, like maybe years later somebody might dig it up later on and say, this person lied.

[00:12:41] And it's like, no, I'm not lying. And so I'm at the 100% transparency because I always believe in karma as I bite you in the butt later on. And thanks.

[00:12:55] Yeah, I think we should take notice of that. Karma also works in the reverse too. So, you know, if you do good things, then you will earn, you will have earned good things in the same sense, same wheel of fortune. That's true too.

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[00:14:56] I agree with that too, especially because they always say what goes around comes around. And so I like that too. So karma can go both ways. Sometimes lately it's been most likely biting me in the butt sometimes. Especially with statistics. I hate statistics.

[00:15:19] Oh man, you don't tell me. I took statistics in college and I, oh god, it was the worst. I really, yeah, I loathe it. Honestly, every second in that class. Shakespeare.

[00:15:29] I'm literally banging my head and studying four days by the final. I can't get rid of these numbers in my head. Every time I go to bed at night, I see numbers. It's like, I see pretty numbers. Shakespeare. Shakespeare.

[00:15:45] So my next question for you is what are some ways for people to start forgiving themselves for stuff they have done or have not done? Well, I think we are all, I think it's member to our psyche as a human. Every human wants to contribute to their community.

[00:16:10] And in fact, I feel like it's also a quality to our fear, our anxiety that we want to contribute to our community because we want to have some kind of worth. And so we're not dispensable. Right?

[00:16:26] So I think curing a lot of anxiety around forgiveness is about embracing the thing that you love to do that also contributes to the welfare of the people around you.

[00:16:42] So to work, do a great deal of work selfless and do it selflessly and do it with affection and do it with discipline.

[00:16:51] There's really no alternative, truly. Because you find peace through the love of others and through the warmth and the joy of friendship is where we derive it all in the end, all our happiness.

[00:17:09] I think one way how I forgive myself for the stuff I have done is there's people who stayed with me. I wrote a very sincere apology for all the stuff I did and they've been around witnessed, et cetera.

[00:17:27] And it meant a lot to me that they just read it in front of me. I mean, they say like, oh, you know how to do this. And I was like, no, I really had to do this.

[00:17:43] And then because there was sometimes I had like restless nights, I kind of fell. And there's some nights where I can sleep with my eyes closed.

[00:17:55] Where I just my autistic brain kind of play stuff on a replay, kind of like a like a better like a corvettes conveyor belt that just goes around and around or a hamstring wheel, whatever. That's a squash and it just never ends.

[00:18:14] And so sometimes if I see something in a movie, like if it's very scary to me, my brain just remember as always bad things like I remember his lines and whatnot. But it was like something really graphic.

[00:18:31] My brain just remembers is like, no, I'll give you an example. My mom was watching this one TV show and I caught a glimpse of it and had like flashbacks and everything.

[00:18:43] And I'm not going to say what was on the flashbacks and everything, but it had like very graphic scenes and whatnot. And it's like it's a police show and I'm on that. And I say they really did not need to put these flashbacks in here.

[00:19:03] It's one thing it was like a pre recorded video, like a part of the story. But then like didn't you need to put the whole flashbacks and had to see every little nook and cranny of this happening? And I was like, no thanks.

[00:19:16] But that stayed in my mind. And there was a few nights where I had like really bad dreams. I was like, OK, next time when my mom's watching this show, I'm leaving the hell out of this room. Yeah.

[00:19:29] My brain will play it on replay and say I don't need this. Yeah, Shakespeare. So my next question for you is how do you practice forgiveness and how do you practice forgiving others?

[00:19:47] Well, I think that a lot of people would say that oftentimes whatever trespasses are committed against you are often a reflection of what they're experiencing. The turmoil within themselves, the unfair or unkind things they say to you and do, those are a product of insecurity.

[00:20:10] And so trying to retain that, I find that's really hard to do to actually practice that. And so I really feel like it has to it has to come from within. And if you want to receive forgiveness, you have to be willing to submit it for others.

[00:20:33] I think that's the only that's really the only way. I mean, you have to have a mentality like you have to cradle, you know, it has to your life and your consciousness and your habits have to live in a cradle of forgiveness. Shakespeare. I agree with that.

[00:20:52] Like I got bullied growing up in public school for eight years. And I wouldn't say I've forgiven any of those bullies because I never seen them ever again.

[00:21:04] But but to be honest, I wouldn't be where I am today and I've overcome bullying and whatnot if it wasn't for them. But I would never even be I was somewhat of a unique story growing up.

[00:21:23] But but also they kind of completed my completed that part of my story in my life and it kind of took where my podcast and businesses were today. So I don't think I would really have a full complete story without them. So I was like, thank you.

[00:21:44] But I was like, so I kind of think now for it, but then kind of not think them at the same time because bullying sucks. But to overcome it, it's really, really, really, I mean, it feels really great.

[00:22:00] And to be able to share with my story with other people is really great, too. So it's kind of a win-win situation. I mean, Shakespeare, I understand that sentiment.

[00:22:13] I do like it's funny because people often who have like been on the receiving end of horrible trauma from loved ones, people that I don't believe that forgiveness is meant to be. So thorough that you still allow some of these people to remain in your life.

[00:22:39] Sometimes you really do have to sever yourself from these people. And that to make that distinction is really hard to know whether or not you can forgive them and then allow them to remain, you know, in your orbit, the orbit of your existence.

[00:22:56] Or if you have to, you know, it really comes down to whether or not they take accountability and truly make effort to to change and to sustain that Shakespeare.

[00:23:14] I like what you said there because my I could add some people in my life who, let's just say I had a few a friend who was there for me during bullying when I was in school and they served the purpose.

[00:23:34] But years later, we kind of just drifted apart. Now follow each other just different stages of our lives. But I kind of just let kind of let her go. I mean, kind of let the person go just because I didn't need the person anymore.

[00:23:55] And she was just wasn't there for me. That person wasn't just there for me anymore. So I was like, so I just quietly just left it behind. And as a person served for time being and and the memories will always be there.

[00:24:13] But I don't need that person in my life anymore. Now, the death of a relationship feels strange. It feels like a strange part of you dies to you. Right. Like some part of you. It parishes in the same with with that memory. But it's not true.

[00:24:32] And but it but what it does is I think it imparts the lesson that nothing is permanent. And so like you just said, like you you had a lovely relationship friendship with someone who afforded you some defense in times when you needed it.

[00:24:49] But, you know, if a heart surgeon repairs your heart, they don't keep following you around ready to perform surgery again. Right. Yeah. And they don't do that. And so that'd be kind of weird. Well, yeah.

[00:25:03] And so I mean, you have to sometimes you have to think of people like that who you aren't wholly compatible with, but who in some way want to provide some kind of social service for you and you for them. Yeah.

[00:25:18] No offense at this, but I do disagree with one thing, though. I feel like there's some instance where there can be permanent.

[00:25:33] Like I have two really, I mean, many close friends, but these three friends who I've been friends with for they've never been friends with since like for 30 years. And as other and my other two friends that I've been friends with like 22 or 23 years.

[00:25:52] So I kind of feel like there's some circumstances where there's some things that just last long. And so, but it doesn't. But I would say like, like certain in certain circumstances, but not for everything. Because I feel like if it's meant to be, it's meant to be.

[00:26:14] And and these people, my best friends, I call the best friends because they know everything that know about me, like what my what ticks me off, what makes me laugh, et cetera. And they just know everything inside and out and they can keep secrets. But it's Shakespeare.

[00:26:37] And so but that's where I only disagree a little bit with that. So my next question to Mario is what is the best way to be successful? And my next question is, why do you think some people, as someone who's listening to this podcast episode right now,

[00:27:03] what do you think people should take away from this episode about being the most, three takeaways of what people should mind about self, self, self-forgiveness?

[00:27:18] Well, in my book, actually, I have a quote at the end of a paragraph that I wrote that I have why that I can't quote. I have an excerpt that I know, but it's just it's very short.

[00:27:32] It's the justice and redemption are folly, but to seek them is not. And that's an important that's imperative to remember that you may you will never achieve perfect justice and you will never be wholly redeemed ever in the eyes of everyone.

[00:27:50] It's just impossible, but that does not mean you can give it up to the pursuit anyway. I think that meditation is an important thing to do to reduce the amount of stimulus you get just in general. The Internet can be a distraction place.

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[00:32:11] It reminded me of something and it reminded me of this moment that I liked. I mean, I'm trying to remember. So it reminded me of special memories with my friends and whatnot. And I definitely like that quote.

[00:32:39] I think once I read your book, I'm definitely going to highlight that just because I really like the quote. I mean, I was like, to be honest, I do save different kind of quotes that I find

[00:32:57] and they're good quotes that always stay in my head for some reason. Like the good lines about movies and whatnot. But I just want to circle back real quick about something you said that some of the

[00:33:14] You were saying, and I might screw up the wording here, so my apologies. You were saying how there is no How did you put it up? There's no perfect ending or whatnot. They never really wholly redeemed.

[00:33:35] Yeah. And so I wanted to ask you just kind of like a tongue in cheek. So you mean life is not like a soap opera or one of those fantasy Netflix films or TV shows? You mean the perfect ending like that? Yeah, no nuance to that, right?

[00:33:53] Yeah, it seems everyone rides off and is able to chase an eternal dawn. You know, the golden sunset for some part. Or going after those The evil villain, like by the word, the villain of the TV shows. I would go chase after them. That's the worst possible idea.

[00:34:18] That's like saying for analogy, that's like saying let's bring them back to a gunfight. That's a good idea. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Being careful with how you apply morality is also I think is important to run the same reason.

[00:34:38] You know, when we talk about villains, I have a Shakespeare. I have a Shakespeare. I have a character who in the book I'm about to publish in a couple of weeks. It's volume three of this series. It's the sequel to the one I've already published, my first one.

[00:34:57] And he's a character whose father was enslaved and his mother is someone who is part of the aristocracy. And he's sold into slavery. And he is as a kid even. And then he tries to run away and his mother sells him to someone else, his own mother.

[00:35:14] And then he does horrific things through his life. And so you hope in and when you see those things and him becoming an adult and all the terrible things you did,

[00:35:25] you still in the end, you still feel kind of ambivalent because you know this was his Genesis and it was so awful. And you can't help but to feel like even if he did monstrous things that we deserve to acknowledge that history,

[00:35:43] you know, and to submit that I mean just a grain of forgiveness in the sense that, you know, that we can see the consequences and we try and try to and try to advance those onto our future circumstances

[00:36:00] so that we can prevent that from happening again to someone else. So my next question for you is when does your book come out? My first one, The Second Son Volumes 1 and 2, it came out last year in February and the Shakespeare.

[00:36:17] Volume 3, that one is actually the Indie Book Awards. It's a it's called the Next Generation Indie Book Awards, I think, or it used to be the International Indie Book Awards. They are releasing the results of that in the next week or so.

[00:36:37] And depending on how well I did, I'm hoping that I did very well. I would I wanted to publish at the same time. You know, if I ended up winning, then I thought I thought it would be fun. I've been I've been holding off on publishing.

[00:36:53] I've already finished. In fact, I'm about 14. I'm over 14000 words into volume four already. You know, like some comparison, The Hobbit's 98000 words. So I can never get into the Laura, the Rains books. I got into the movies, but I think like no offense to you know,

[00:37:18] I'm not saying a token, but he describes them like some of the blades of grass, like at least a thousand different ways. And I was like, got it. Can you just try their little mentions like maybe three, like maybe two sentences and I can picture it.

[00:37:37] But I don't need to go over that every single hardware detail. And are you seeing Game of Thrones or Reddit? I have never seen the Game of Thrones and I've I tried reading the Game of Thrones.

[00:37:51] And I feel like my cousin, my cousin to really love like all the medieval stuff. So it's like, Jimmy, you got to read this. It's so hyped up. And I try I try I got to like the halfway point.

[00:38:04] I mean, I mean, less I got in less than halfway point on the game, the first Game of Thrones book. And I was like, can I get my money back? Yeah, I'm Shakespeare.

[00:38:14] Well, I was only going to say that the structure of it of my of my books is that is really similar to Game of Thrones. And that's three different parts of the world with three different groups of characters that come together.

[00:38:27] And you feel and you learn how they're they come together or rather how they're how they're related rather than just so. And but also the spirit of Tolkien in that anyone, however big or small can achieve extraordinary things.

[00:38:40] Yeah. And and for my lessons, I am not like making fun of Tolkien or the next game with Thrones. It just it wasn't for me. It was not for my liking. So, I mean, it's great that they can create such an imagination world like that.

[00:39:02] And I give them all the credit in the world. I'm just saying it's just not for me. So I have all the respect for the authors because those people are impressive.

[00:39:13] You can write so many gosh darn words where I know I could write, but I don't know if I can write a book. Yeah, Shakespeare is a lot of work. It is it is. And to do it well is even harder.

[00:39:28] Yeah. And I and like and just seeing James Patterson just like just magically one book a week. And like, are you are you sure you're not about James Patterson? Like he is like a well-oiled machine.

[00:39:44] I do. Yeah, I think we I'm fairly certain that he does a like he has other writers that help them. They do they do part of the work. Yeah. So my last few questions for you is who's your favorite podcast there?

[00:39:58] My and feel free not to say me Shakespeare. Um, no, I don't know. You know, I honestly I I actually really like Conan O'Brien. I think he's really funny and Carl Pilkington. You know, he's part of the I love Shakespeare.

[00:40:21] I love those guys. I love I love comedians. I think that comedy is like that is the highest form of art. It's the most complex because you have to understand as a comedian,

[00:40:33] you have to understand every context in the same way that the dramatist does and the romance writer and the horror writer. But you have to be able to get one step further and reveal the irony.

[00:40:44] Right. And I think that that's that requires a special kind of sense of humor. Requires a very special relationship with reality that I really I admire a great deal. And so and I consider comedy itself as a separate art form from everything else.

[00:41:01] Like I can there's writing and then there's there's sculpting, there's painting and there's all these different dancing. But comedy is its own is a separate thing to me. Even it's not just a genre. I agree with it. My favorite podcast is Lewis Howes School of Greatness.

[00:41:21] And he has like really great episodes and I've interacted with him multiple times on social media, which was pretty cool. I mean, which is pretty cool. And you I said to my followers and his followers,

[00:41:36] they went down and went beyond your show and he actually wrote back to me and say, I look forward to it. That's a challenge as I knew how to accept it. And he was funny. I had a podcast who came on my show.

[00:41:50] He actually got to meet Lewis Howes and like and like I didn't have enough time to present to talk on how he met him. But I was like, I want to meet him so damn bad.

[00:42:06] Lewis Howes if you were hearing this, I want to meet you so badly. And I mean in person, not just on screen. That'd be really cool. And my last question for you is where can people follow you?

[00:42:21] Learn more about who you are and what you do and where can people find your books? Shakespeare. Well, if you go to Christophmarrow.com that has links to everything that I have and do. But my book is on Amazon and it's on Kobo.

[00:42:39] Yeah, and I'm on I'm really just on it. I'm on Instagram, Facebook and TikTok at least from TikTok for now. Where it's going? What's going to happen to that? Because that's actually like most of my followers are on TikTok.

[00:42:54] I have like six thousand on there so I'm concerned. I won't have any of those anymore. But yeah, so that's that's. That's cool. I'll put all those in the show notes for everyone to find.

[00:43:10] And yeah, and I hopefully I want to get you back on again because I think we can talk some more about self-forgiveness and and also maybe by the time when I have you back on maybe a fourth book will be back. Yeah, that would be great.

[00:43:29] And let's stay in touch. Yeah, thank you. I treasure your trust. We appreciate it. And I follow I will follow you on social media. So and if I forget in a couple of days don't take offense at it. It's just my my brain is just math math.

[00:43:47] So I'll definitely reach back out again next week. It's important. But just my brain is like if I do one more math problem, I'm just going to just like bang my head against the keyboard. Yeah, no, I sympathize. I'm glad the summary always have sympathizes.

[00:44:09] So thank you and I'll see you next time. And let's stay in touch. Yeah, thanks, Joe. So that's all the time we have for today. If you'd like it, subscribe, share, comment. Let me know how we're doing.

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