Sensory Friendly Routines for Autism Mental Health | Creative Expression & Emotional Resilience Through Art

Sensory Friendly Routines for Autism Mental Health | Creative Expression & Emotional Resilience Through Art

For a lot of autistic and neurodivergent adults, art doesn't have to be "good" to be useful — it's one of the most effective sensory friendly routines for regulating emotions, processing overwhelm, and building real emotional resilience. In this episode, Jimmy Clare talks about neurodivergent creative expression as a legitimate autism mental health tool: how painting, writing, music, or any special interest can become a judgment free creative practice, why creative burnout recovery looks different for autistic and ADHD brains, and how building a sensory friendly routine around art supports nervous system regulation and autistic emotional health without the pressure to perform or "do it right." No toxic positivity, no perfectionism — just practical mind-body connection autism tools for autistic mental wellness that you can actually build into your week.

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  • The Crazy Fitness Guy show encourages everyone to unleash their inner awesomeness and embrace uniqueness.
  • Jimmy Claire, the host, is a professional speaker and autism advocate with inspiring stories.
  • Kevo, the guest, has a rich background as an artist, professor, and stage play producer.
  • The podcast emphasizes the importance of following your passion and taking risks in creative endeavors.
  • Listeners are reminded that effort and genuine interest can improve relationships with professors and mentors.
  • Kevo shares that inspiration can come from anywhere, even during mundane activities like showering.

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[00:01:31] Join Jimmy as he shares inspiring stories, experiences, and expertise to motivate and educate. Make sure you follow our show so you never miss a brand new episode. Now let's dive into the show. Welcome to another episode of The CrazyFitnessGuy Show, Healthy Women Podcast. That's weekly on the show with Crazy Fitness Guy.

[00:01:57] Today, I have an amazing guest who has literally, I feel like, 30 million titles to their name. And very impressive and makes me look like a total amateur. Moahaha. You know when we have a really good guest when they have so many flipping titles? I mean, it's very, very impressive. And I mean impressive in a good way.

[00:02:23] And so I'm not going to waste any time and I'll save the promotional pieces for last. Just so we can just dive right into this episode. So, let's welcome Kivo out. Hello. Hey, what's up man? What's up? Kivo, I'm on your call. I'm on your show. Thank you for having me. Thank you for everything. I appreciate you. Thank you for your time. I looked up your show.

[00:02:52] I love what you're doing. I think it's beautiful. I think it's great for society. I think it's great for the internet. So, thank you for having me. Awesome. So, before we get started, can you tell us a little bit about who you are, what you do, how you got started and why you got started? Well, I'm Kivo. I'm an artist. I'm a full-time artist. I'm an art professor. I'm single dad. I'm widowed. I am a stage play producer.

[00:03:21] I actually want to show you the Medusa mask for my next stage play. It's a Medusa stage play. I have it downstairs. I have to run and go grab it at some point, but it's like right there. I forgot to bring it up. And I am a tattooist and a painter. I have my MFA in fine art. I travel around the world, being my artist shown around the world. Yeah.

[00:03:48] And I started out, you know, I'm 37 now. When I was 17, I went to jail for an aggravated robbery charge that was dropped to an assault. And then after that moment, I changed my life and I've been on the terrace. That's great that you were able to turn your life around. Just like curiosity. Did you always wanted to go into art?

[00:04:19] I think that's a natural thing. I think when you asked me if I wanted to go into art, I think it's just a natural thing that I did because I started out drawing. And now primarily my main thing is stage plays with the Medusa play being my latest project. So I think it's just, I just have that brain that wants to do artistic things and is passionate about it. And when I'm in their world and when I'm in their zone, that's all I really care about.

[00:04:49] Yeah, I definitely agree with you. I really do miss art classes back in my high school, middle school. I think that was like a true elective. I don't like the terminology elective in college because like you can choose your elective and then it's like 600 million things. Like we got your change terminology. This is very false advertising.

[00:05:18] Yeah, that's true. That's college itself though. And I even tell people that are just starting out. I tell people all the time, start with your basics. If you have no idea what you want to go for, just get the basics out the way because all of the other stuff is going to get very, very, it's permanent. You know what I mean? So you want to knock the basics out because they're permanent. That way you don't have to ever go back to them. If you decide in the future, you want to do something. Okay.

[00:05:46] So my next question for you is a little bit off topic, but. Uh, well, because you're a professor and I wanted to ask you and let's just say hypothetically,

[00:06:05] um, if a student and a professor just not jiving on certain stuff, can you give somebody some tips and tricks on how you can jive with the professor? Uh, yeah, I think, um, if you, I think that the thing about college versus hospital is that for one, the college professors are a little bit.

[00:06:31] They care about their job, about what they're teaching a little bit more than a hospital person is there. They're more than likely. They more than likely love what they do. So I think if you show them, you actually cared about what they're being taught, then it would give you some good points with that professor.

[00:06:49] Like you're, you're actually invested and interested and take out the little bit of time to, you know, not just treat everything like a black and white assignment, but to say, Hey, um, you know, I saw this and. You know, I noticed that this actually applies to this, um, in my life and, you know, it's bigger than this. Um, and effort goes a long way with how it's professors and life. Okay, great.

[00:07:17] I mean, I, I, I found it very insightful because I would just say that person hypothetically is me just trying to figure out statistics. Math is not my forte at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That can be tough. That can be tough because it's like when you're not good at something, your brain is not good at it. When you're, when your brain is working on it, um, that part of your brain hasn't been exercised enough.

[00:07:45] It has to be, it has to be exercised a little bit more to get better at it. But I also would advise with some classes, um, with certain classes, especially, especially if they're challenging, um, to, to go that extra mile studying because once you're done with it, you don't have to worry about it anymore. You got to really, really, really, you know, take it, take that class a little bit more serious because maybe you can vibe with the professor.

[00:08:14] Maybe it's going to be you and that work, but, uh, try to be positive and confident about it as well, because, you know, C's get degrees. Agreed. Uh, uh, this, I've talked to some people about this, uh, and then, uh, and I, I think, uh, what I just, some other people have been telling me.

[00:08:44] And it's like, well, you don't say that you're not good at math and whatnot. And it's like, because if they think that, and then it's like, well, I'm not going to say I'm really great at math. And it's like, I don't really mind myself over and over again. I'm bad at math. I just think. Yeah. They're probably talking about positive thinking. Yeah. They're probably talking about positive thinking. Instead of saying you're, you're, you're, you're bad at it, just saying you're getting better at it. Yeah.

[00:09:14] I agree with that. I just, I don't like when people tell me is like, oh, don't tell yourself you're bad at math. And it's like, I'm getting better. I'm just gonna be a mathematician. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Math is stuff, man. It works out a different part of your brain. It's called abstract reasoning. I believe it's a very critical thinking part. It's a very math is a tough. It's another language actually. That's how you should look at math. Look at it as like you're learning a new length. That's some good advice. Oh man.

[00:09:43] So my next question for you is, how did you get into screen playwriting? You know what? Let me grab it so I won't keep thinking about it. Let me go grab that math. Okay. Look. Quick commercial break.

[00:10:22] Oh, shitty. Sorry about that. No worries. So. All right. I hear you. What was your question? What was your question? Uh, so I, how did you get into, uh, the screenplay writing and art, et cetera?

[00:10:50] I got into writing screenplays. Um, when I was younger, I used to love reading and reading and writing plays all the time. Um, I'm bad. Man. Sorry about that. I got into writing screenplays.

[00:11:16] Um, when I was younger, I used to read Shakespeare and, um, Ibsen and, you know, I would read Arthur Miller, Crucible, you know, I would read stuff like that all the time. Um, and, um, I was a big theater kid. I always loved acting. I've done a few movies. And when I wanted to get back into filmmaking, because I did some movies like maybe 10 years ago and I did some short films since.

[00:11:45] But what I wanted to get back into filmmaking, the thing I loved about movies and theater is the audience's reaction. So I was like, instead of making more movies, I'm going to start a few stage plays first before I get back into making films. So, I mean, I've always loved stage plays and screenplays.

[00:12:08] Uh, what kind of, uh, have you done any, uh, stage plays that people would recognize the name of or? Uh, what I have a few coming out. Um, I haven't, um, possibly this. Summer or this fall. Um, two of my stage plays will be out on streaming services. One of them is called Vincent. It's about the life of Van Gogh. It's the old to Van Gogh. And the other is called, what do we do now?

[00:12:36] It's a, it's a timeline of black history. Um, my next suit stage play, um, will definitely be out on streaming services eventually after we were done filming and stuff. It's, it's about Medusa. I wrote, I rewrote a version of Medusa and, uh, and yeah. That's one of my next stage plays about that one's next to my on Memorial day. Yeah.

[00:13:01] You know, I, I have a friend of mine who's, uh, who's, uh, who's, uh, getting up. He was starring in his film, uh, or TV show. I think it was a TV show. One of the two. And, uh, and he's been showing behind the scenes of it. And I was like, that's very interesting on how you, I mean, I felt it's very cool to how he got the part and whatnot.

[00:13:31] And, uh, I don't think I could ever write something to be adapted to, to screenplays. Yeah. I get, I get what you mean. It takes a lot for, I heard Quentin Tarantino say this. It takes a lot for you to stare at a blank computer, write something, you know, then produce it, direct it and do all of that.

[00:13:57] Versus, you know, you're waiting on writers to, to come in with their own stuff. So it is, I know that it seems like, you know, like a lot of work, but if it, if it comes natural, you can do it. So we're mine. A lot of my writing doesn't even get seen because I feel like for every, like maybe five strips. All right. I might like one. I think my sweet spot is like the sixth or seventh idea.

[00:14:26] That's when I start to say like, okay, I can write this for it. And, um, because usually I'll write a few scripts and I'm like, I ditch it. Like, I don't like it, you know? So. So my next question for you is what do you, do you have some advice for people who are looking into getting to writing, uh, screenplays or stage? Yeah, I do.

[00:14:53] Um, cause I do have advice for people because that's one of the most, like one of the most annoying things I hear about is people just telling me like, Hey, when you got something, let me know. Or when you're doing something, uh, let me get in it or something like that. And it's like, go experience it on your own or just come to an audition. I'm not going to be thinking about, Hey, when the next time I need an audition, let me reach out to you.

[00:15:21] Like I'm trying to cast like actual actors and celebrities and stuff. I'm not thinking like about random people that, you know, just want to try it out. So my advice to people is, you know, go do, go film, go write, go audition to everybody's stuff. Like, don't just try to have your mindset on working with one person or trying to reach out to people because that's not the process.

[00:15:50] That's not how acting goes. Like Denzel Washington isn't walking around like telling people, Hey, whenever you got something, let me know, you know, like these people have agents and managers. These people reach out to people. Um, things change. You could, you could cast somebody and then change your mind. You know what I mean? And if you're not a professional enough actor, you might, you might, your brain might fall apart. Not realizing that it's normal that people do things like this.

[00:16:19] So I would say, just get familiar with the business and stop. Like, don't let yourself, don't hold yourself that. Trying to get into entertainment, just do it. Just like, I remember somebody told me, Hey, I wrote something. If you want to do this for your next play, I was like, I'm not doing somebody else's art. Like that's your, you go do it. Like you have that access to the world. Just like I do. Just go and make your own movie. So that would be my advice.

[00:16:48] Just jump in, do as much work as you can. It's kind of common sense, but it's just like, you got to work as hard as the next person or as hard as me. Exactly. It's good.

[00:17:24] It's good. I've come along long way from the beginning. Since the beginning. That's what it's about. Life is about being able to say I've came along with, you know what I mean? That's what, that's a very fulfilling thing. I've met so many different- Hey, it's Jimmy Clair. If you're serious about growing a business without growing your bills, you need AppSumo. Get lifetime deals on tools and start to get smarter.

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[00:18:21] Hit the link in the show notes, let person post a plan, do the heavy lifting, and get back to doing what you love. Visit the link in the show notes for more information. Some podcasters do, uh, like they're afraid to get their feet in the morning. It's like, lift might don't sound very good. It's like, trust me, everyone hits the standard of their own life. It doesn't start. Start for you to go through the motions.

[00:18:50] So anything in life, you're going to start off as a novice, as a beginner. You can't just expect to just start and be a star. It'd be nice if that worked out that way. It would be great. It would be great.

[00:19:07] So, honestly, I do get tired of some of the celebrities who started going into the podcast industry a little bit because they, because, and then they talk about the troubles of podcasting. Like, you know, the, like, yes, I have, I get $800 million in podcasting. I was like, yeah, I'm really sure you're not really feeling struggling at the moment.

[00:19:37] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm actually about to start streaming. Oh, I'm going to have, I'm going to, since, you know, I do so many things, like you said, I wear so many hats. My, I have a friend of mine who was like, bro, you should definitely stream. So I'm going to stream a lot of things. I'm going to stream backstage of my play. I'm going to start streaming some of my filming stuff. Um, some of my workouts, just my life as a single parent. Now, um, tattooing.

[00:20:07] I'm going to be start streaming some of my painting, um, my Twitch and YouTube. Uh, name is Kevo Arts. So that's really what it was next for me. So I ain't going to be podcasting like you, but I'll definitely be streaming my life. So where do you come up for, uh, as inspiration ideas for your projects, like paintings and everything else?

[00:20:36] You said, where do I come up with my inspiration? Yep. So they kind of just come. I used to, I remember, um, this quote, idea is like a gift from God. They come, but, and I act on things in certain different ways. So for me, art should be expressed. However you feel that needs to be expressed. So sometimes I might get an idea. It might be a painting. Sometimes it might be a drawing.

[00:21:05] Sometimes it might be a poem. Sometimes it might be a book. Sometimes it might be a movie. I'm in the process of writing a novel right now. And I scratched it and was like, I think I was 30 something thousand words in. And I decided to change it to a graphic novel. So sometimes the idea comes and it's just, it tells you what to do. The Medusa is crazy.

[00:21:29] I was talking to a friend recently and she was like, ever since you started doing your Medusa thing, I've been seeing Medusa stuff everywhere. So sometimes I think ideas hit multiple people at once. Um, I'm really excited. I got the mask right here. I wanted to show you the mask for the Medusa play. This is our, I'm not going to put it on because I don't want the Shonda to get mad at me. Cause I want her to feel like it's her mask for now.

[00:21:58] But, but yeah, it's a, it's pretty cool. Yeah. Really freaky. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. I get, I got a lot of inspiration for my ideas. Uh, and, and might sound really freaky, but I got my ideas when I'm taking a shower and

[00:22:29] my brain is like, Hey, I got a great idea. It's like, then shut up. It's like, you gotta write it down. That's the only thing about ideas. You have to write them down because you'll, you'll literally forget it. I hate when I think of a song or something or, or, or a chord of an instrument and I'm like, yo, that would've been great. And I, and I can't cause I also write music. So it's like, I hate when I think of something and I, and it's like, man, I can't remember. And let me ask the next thing you're going to say.

[00:22:59] You're a pilot. No, I'm not a pilot. That's funny. Yeah. Cause somebody asked me that. It's like, this guy can do everything. He's amazing. I appreciate it. Somebody does funny how you said that, but nah, like it's, it's, it's cool. It's just the gift. It's not, and I don't do everything. I just do art. You know what I mean?

[00:23:25] And fortunately along getting my education at art, it helped me develop, um, even more. But some of the things I've just been doing, I just would just did them underground. You know what I mean? Like when I tell people that I've been using that day, if they never know I've ever did music in my life, they're like, they don't believe me. But some people that know me from back when I used to sell dope and stuff. They're like, yeah, he used to make beats. I used to watch him play the piano. Like, you know what I mean? So it's not a big deal to them.

[00:23:52] So, um, I was telling, uh, I was talking to somebody the other day about, uh, writing and I was, uh, we were talking about the down beats and, and, uh, metronomes. And he was like, yeah, you're a lot more passionate talking about that because, uh, it's just so many different things, man. So many, so many different, I'm writing a musical and in order to write this musical, I wanted

[00:24:17] to present the music, uh, as a sample to different musicians written. So I was like, you know what? I'm just going to write it out with all of the, um, skills with it, just with everything with all the keys and everything. And, uh, he was like, bang, that's impressive. Um, but like I said, I was already doing music like a long time ago. I just would make, I would make an instrumental. So it's, you don't forget a lot of this stuff.

[00:24:47] A lot of this mix of the old, you don't forget a lot of these sales chords. You know, it's, it's hard to forget when you really love what you, what you're doing. You know what I mean? Yeah. Do you, uh, play any instruments? Do I play any instruments? I, I know how to play the flute and the clarinet. I'm just not that good anymore. I know how to play the piano. Like I can read a piano, um, music as well. I just don't play it.

[00:25:16] I did host last year or the year before a funny video. Like I was dressed as the Grinch and I was playing Dr. Dury, but I don't, I don't play it often enough to just jump and play it though. So like, it's like something that I remember one of my homies, uh, I was with Paul. He, he's actually an actor in the play. Um, he, he, he, he saw me play the piano. He was like, I didn't know you could do that. So we was in Louisiana. I saw piano and I just started playing it.

[00:25:46] He was like, what the hell? But, um, but yeah, I mean, it's just different things, man. It's just, it's just, I'm a real, I'm an actual artist. I thought you would be like, uh, uh, like a drummer or something because, uh, uh, I don't know. I, I, I don't. Yeah. Come on like a drum. You know, I mean, yeah. You don't picture me as somebody playing the flute. No offense. Yeah. Yeah. I get you. I get you. I get you. I'm not that good at it. I just not a player.

[00:26:16] Oh, I, yeah. I, I played, I used to play the piano. Uh, not so much anymore. Uh, I, I used to got piano lessons. Yeah. Uh, my, my very, very last recital was like years ago, but I screwed on the chopsticks. I was like, I can't use them. I can't use them for sushi and I can't play it either. So. That's funny.

[00:26:45] It's like time for me to officially retire. Done. That's funny. Uh, and my, my dad's, uh, gives me crap about that because, uh, it was me and my mom and they do. Um, that, um, I think it'll be called do it. Right. Uh, for. Yeah. Yeah. It was me and her. You know, uh, she said that I screwed up and I said, and I said, I was like, no, you

[00:27:11] screwed up and, uh, you both can't agree on who screwed up or not screwed up. So it was like, uh, I'll never admit it. I admit all this stuff. Uh, uh, I was, I wouldn't say I like, I was Beethoven or anything, but, uh, there were some songs I played too fast. I admit that, but. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:27:40] It's hard, man. Well, you just really have to get the skills down, down beside and then you're good from there. It's almost like writing. Like I like, I love reading, um, because I love watching movies, you know, like, you know, one of the things I love to talk about, like is even, you know, some of the favorite movies or movies I think that are best, you know what I mean? Okay. So my next question for you is who's your fit and what's your favorite movie and why?

[00:28:07] My favorite movie is Pulp Fiction. That's my favorite movie. I think it captures everything I love about filmmaking and art. And I love that it's noir, but it's not noir because it is Pulp Fiction. And around that time, you know, I'm an art history. Uh, I love art history. And I learned a lot about filmmaking art history.

[00:28:33] Pulp Fiction was, it used to be an actual like genre of magazines that used to come out and everything. And I feel like what Quentin Tarantino did with that ensemble of a cast, bringing back this cast of people who some had fell off and some were up and coming, putting them together in an indie style film. With that crazy story, I feel like it's everything art is about. Art is about diversity. Art is about creativity. Art is about love, action, comedy.

[00:29:03] You know, it's about so much. And he just boiled it all down into this movie. Um, it's not, I don't call a lot of movies a 10, but I think that's a 10, but that is my favorite. I would say that's my favorite movie. I think my, I think my favorite movie would be all the Harry Potter films. Harry Potter. I like Harry Potter. Harry Potter. I think that was my favorite.

[00:29:33] It just because like, I have all the DVDs, but then there's times where I might be like watching actual cable TV, like once in a blue moon. And then it's like, oh, Harry Potter's on. And it's like, well, I can't really deal with this. That's crazy. That's crazy. What about, um, favorite songs? You have any favorite songs? You can ask me after. I think my, my favorite song. Hmm.

[00:30:03] That's a very hard, tough choice. Um, um, um, I can go first. I think you go first. So, um, what my favorite song, right? Yeah.

[00:30:21] Um, it's probably either fast car by Tracy Chapman or yesterday by the Beatles or sometimes it snows in April by Prince. Prince is actually my favorite artist. A lot of people don't know that when I tell people that I tell them to be more specific

[00:30:49] specific because for me, art is musicians. An artist can be a rapper like Tupac's one of my favorite artists. Cause I feel like he act, he was, uh, very poetic. I feel like he could also rap. Um, you know, so I tell people to be more specific when they ask me what are my favorite artists. Um, especially because painter, my favorite painter of all time would be Peter Paul Rupin's.

[00:31:19] So that's tough, but yeah, my favorite Tracy Chapman, fast car or yesterday by the Beatles. I think, I think I like that more than sometimes it snows in April. I really love that song by Prince. Sometimes it snows in April, but Prince is my favorite artist hands down. Oh, I love Michael Jackson more than anybody, but Prince is my favorite artist. I think for me, uh, the song, uh, are you ready by AC DC is one of my favorites.

[00:31:49] And just because like, at first it starts off with this thing, you see on the guitar. And then all of a sudden it gets like, are you ready? And it's like, it's like, if I, as I, if only I could ever use that small little bit for where I'm going on stage, that would be freaking awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So favorite songs are those.

[00:32:18] I talked about my favorite artists for a bit and I said, you know, I brought up Tupac. I guess, um, that's, I think that's pretty interesting. Like, uh, how, how I laid that out. Uh, and I think my favorite artists would be AC DC because I saw it on twice in concert. And yeah, literally after the concert, you feel like flipping over a car. Yeah, for sure. For sure. I bet.

[00:32:44] I always, we listened to a little bit in my area, just a little bit, not too much. Um, and to like, it takes, uh, you to be around more diverse group of people to even like, listen to different genres of music anyways, when you're younger, it usually happens when you're young and when you're older, you're more open to like, to go do it on your own. But when you're young, you're forced based on what everybody else is. So they're not listening to the. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny.

[00:33:10] Uh, I think I only got into, uh, all the classic kind of music. Well, I don't say classical, but like rock and roll music because my dad listened to it. My brother listened to it. I listened to it. My cousin listened to it. We didn't, uh, they didn't really, my brother got into rap. I mean, I like a few rap songs, but I wouldn't really like say they're like, yeah.

[00:33:39] I mean, the rap is kind of hard to, it just, it just doesn't age well. Like in my. Like it's like, like, um, when you said that, like about getting into rap, it just, it just doesn't age well to me. Like rap music is it's for a certain part of my life. I feel like, like, even as I'm getting older, I listened to it a lot less, but I listened to it as entertained versus when I was younger. I would listen to it, but it was therapeutic.

[00:34:08] It was, it was more than entertaining. I actually had love for it. I was, I was more invested in, you know, the aspect of hip hop as a art form. So I, I cared more about who had the best song and stuff like that, but it doesn't age well to me. And I, and I, and I, I try not to offend cause I know a lot of rappers and stuff. I try not to offend them with that, but it's just like one of those careers that I look at it. That's like, I think, I think it creates people, it turns them pretentious.

[00:34:37] I think it turns people into individuals who they start not to age well. And then I think people have to like stay in a certain character that can't really be themselves. And they have to put on like a front all the time. But I think other genres of music, they can, they can separate themselves from their art easier. Where rap your fan base is very like under 25 most of the time.

[00:35:01] And after that is people start being more selective about what type of rap they want to listen to. And like, and like, no offense to any rappers out there. Like I, it's not that I hate their music whatsoever, because I don't. I feel like that genre for everyone.

[00:35:24] But the reason I got into all the rock and roll kind of stuff was because everyone in my, I think middle school, high school. And I hear my college, but there's so much rap everywhere. And I'm like, again, not saying it's bad or whatnot, but I feel like, I just feel like

[00:35:50] there's a ton of a place for it, but it would just like all over like every single, it's in so many commercials. Sometimes it's like, okay, I need some. There's such too much everything. And I just feel like it just kind of shoved down your hood a little bit sometimes.

[00:36:12] Uh, I also kind of find it very impressive that they can also, uh, use like words that rhyme and everything because I'm not really good person rhyming stuff with this and this really, really quick. So yeah, I, I, I actually have a play that rhymes. Um, the narration of it rhymes. It's called Adam's apple.

[00:36:40] Um, that's, um, a project I'm doing in the fall. I can't wait until that project comes out. I'm really excited about that project. All right. Well, I hope you, uh, you and me can stay in touch because I would definitely love to see some of those projects. Yeah. We can stay in touch. It's crazy. Cause I turned 37 this year and I posted on, on, on my Instagram. I put 37 is the number of plays that William Shakespeare had. And he was a huge inspiration for that play.

[00:37:10] I was like, I was, I was like, I gotta go tap in, go read some Shakespeare. Go make sure I'm sharp. Cause he was sharp boy. And go make sure I I'm, I'm ready to get rolling into this before I wrote it. But I'm really excited about that project for sure. For sure. For sure. So my next question for you, I have a fun question. What is the worst movie you have ever seen in your life? The worst movie I've ever seen in my life.

[00:37:39] Do not get bad at me. How to bury, but it was chat one. Cat one is the worst movie. I think that I've ever seen. You know what? Recently though, the best movie I've ever seen in my life came out recently. I think killers of the flower moon is the best movie I've ever seen. I think that from top to bottom. And also you gotta remember I'm a history lover. So it is like a historical movie. That's the best movie I've ever seen.

[00:38:09] Um, the director Martin Scorsese. Um, I almost felt like the lead actress was robbed of an Oscar for best female actress until I watched four things again. And I was like, nah, Emma won that. Emma won that. Um, Robert De Niro, Leonardo DiCaprio. And that movie is amazing. Killers of the flower moon. It's a really, really good. Great. I don't think. I think that.

[00:38:39] Well, I think this will, uh, I think this might start a lot debate maybe, but, and I'm sorry if I start something, but the worst movie I've ever seen. Was M night sham runs the last airbender. Oh, yeah. Uh, I don't know what they do. I don't know why, but that made me think of doing. Have you watched doing one and. Do listen? No, I have not. But, uh, I'm.

[00:39:10] Do listen. Do listen. Do listen. Do listen. Do listen. I have numbers about everything else in math except for.

[00:39:41] Yeah, I got to get my kid in a little bit too, if we got to get off with this a little early, I don't mind either. I know you guys. Yeah. But I know. I just want to say that, that the, uh, one of the things I didn't like, uh, about the M night sham runs version was that. He himself didn't like the original and he's like, I can make this better. And I was like, no, you can't. You can. You can. No, it had a hundred percent perfect brain.

[00:40:10] And, uh, on the Rotten Tomatoes. Yeah. You can beat a hundred percent. And apparently if it wasn't a hundred percent, maybe it was ninety-eight, but still, good luck beating that. Yeah. I think what you said. Exactly. I was like, I kind of feel like shows or, or movies with like a hundred percent shouldn't be touched. Yeah. I agree. That's my opinion. I agree.

[00:40:38] Uh, before we wrap up, can you also, um, and can you tell us, uh, people that can follow you, find you to learn more about who you are and what you do? Oh yeah, man. I'm starting a Twitch stream, man. On Twitch, Kevo Arts, uh, YouTube, Kevo Arts, or my name, Kevin Rigby. Uh, artbykevo.com is my website. My Instagram is also Kevo Arts, K-E-V-O-A-R-T-S. And, um, yeah, that's the easiest places to find me.

[00:41:07] My Twitter is, or X as they call it now is Kevo the Artist. Um, my last question for you is who's your favorite podcaster and why? And feel free not to say me. My favorite podcaster right now is Shannon Sharpe. Um, why?

[00:41:33] Because Shannon Sharp is tackling a lane of entertainers that we don't usually see on being interviewed on podcasts. We usually see them being interviewed on TV. And other than Shannon Sharp, since I'm into sports, it will be Colin Cowherd.

[00:41:56] And I'm gonna tell her, because I like how he, every now and then he kind of talks about his life, not just sports. And I just find that kind of genuine when he talks. I'm like, he's just being himself. My favorite podcaster would be Lewis Howes from the School of Greatness. Yeah. And that is because he, uh, resonates with me, resonates with me a little bit more than others.

[00:42:25] Uh, he wasn't necessarily, he only went to podcasting, uh, he started his own business when he, when he got injured from sports. And, um, I mean, and I haven't gotten injured from, uh, Yeah, but the story is amazing. I get what you're saying. You can't really play like that, but it's just, it's very impressive though. Yeah. And my last question for you is, who's your favorite sports team?

[00:42:55] My favorite sports team. I don't have one. I'm from Houston. So I got a sense. Uh, well, I'm a New York Giants fan and I'm also a, uh, Duke Blues Devils fan. Okay. Okay. I mean, I have a favorite, like, you asked me who's my favorite sports team, right? Yeah. So I have, I don't like teams. I like players. So like, I have like a favorite player or favorite athlete. I like individuals.

[00:43:25] I don't really care for a team. Cause like when I was younger, I loved Barry Sanders. I did not care about the lions. Um, I liked Brady, didn't care too much about the Patriots. So I've always been a individual guy, like with a team. And I mean, I live in Houston, so I'm a Texas fan by default. Well, now I had to ask because you were in the Houston's, uh, uh, you were in a Houston University. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:43:55] I went to, you were amazing. It's the university of Houston. Uh, I went to, uh, university Houston as well. So I got one. Thanks for the brief. Well, I appreciate you being on the podcast and, uh, I hope we can stay in touch because I definitely would like to see some of those players. For sure, man, we will, man. Thank you for having me. And yeah, I appreciate you too. I appreciate you as well. Um, if you have social media, just give me a follow. I'll follow you back and I'll be.

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